Cultural identity, relationships and success

I am of Fijian descent hailing from the village of Navicula just in the Tailevu district in Fiji, and I’m also of Māori descent hailing from Te Ātiawa both from Taranaki and Te Whanganui-a-Tara, so that’s kinda me.

I grew up – it was really funny, so like my upbringing was really diverse and kind of the consistent through line in my life was, not in like a sad way, but I was always sort of the odd one out. So going to – growing up and going to international schools, the only Kiwi pretty much, you know. These international schools, they’re usually predominantly British American. So there’s always massive communities of them, and then as, you know, usually being the lone Kiwi, it’s really hard to sort of find where you sit.

Coming back to New Zealand was a really tough transition because, you know, the people I’d sort of grown up around, which was predominantly Asian, amongst a lot of others, and Pākehā. Like, those are the groups that I feel most comfortable around, but then back in New Zealand, you know, I'm a Pacific Islander, I'm a Māori, and so that’s kind of what they’re putting on me but then those aren’t cultures that I necessarily feel any association to and so when when I first moved back. So that’s kind of been the through line of my life is not really knowing where I can place myself, and for a long time, I figured that was probably just a feeling that I alone have because you see all of these groups and they feel they’re really comfortable and confident in where they sit and, you know, the circle of things.

But as I’ve gotten older and been a lot more vocal about, you know, my displacement in in where I am and who I am. Like I know who I am and I’m really proud of who I am, but when it came to speaking on my displacement, the more I spoke about that, the more I actually started to hear that most people, even people that have grown up, you know, entrenched in their culture, actually feel the same way. So that’s kind of the theme of like my upbringing, that’s been the theme of my life really.

For a long time you’re, you’re really … you feel like you’re on an island on your own, and so that, that feeling of, kind of, not knowing where to put yourself – not knowing where you belong. That’s one that sits with you even after, you know, I guess the benefits of that have, have come to fruition. So that’s something that I feel constantly, and that really plays into like my mental health in both positive and negative ways.

I think the impact of societal norms also had a really big effect on me especially coming back to New Zealand. I think I was the only person that didn’t realise that I was being viewed a certain way. So, you know, I have this amazing upbringing, growing up overseas. I have all these really sort of deep interests in fashion and design, and these aren’t things I just picked up just out of nowhere. They came from like these rich experiences that I was able to have.

But then, you know, in New Zealand, especially, you walk into some rooms, and you know you’re just a, you’re just another brown dude. You’re just another young sort of, you know, probably stupid, probably naive, brown man who, you know, we don’t really need to look to you for what you have to say because I’m sure you’re probably just going to say what everyone else has to say. Or we have heard what you’ve, what you’re probably gonna say before.

So I think, that’s one thing that formed like a lot of the challenges in my life was to beating those. But I think they…goes back to like, my upbringing… is that the stereotypes and the expectations that they tried to put on me, I never ever felt alligned to those anyways.

When I was younger, I didn’t feel aligned to it, and it had a negative effect on me cos I was like, man I want to be like those things. And then as I got older I was like, nah I’ve never been like that, and, to be honest, that’s, that’s my power because I get to walk into places where there aren’t many people who look like me But because I am an authentic version of myself, they get to see that you know, as brown people in general, we are not a monolith, and even though I had this crazy sort of upbringing that’s different to a lot of people – not just brown people – umm, I’m just as brown as the people that you know, I’m just as brown as everybody else. This is what brown people are, like, not what we can be but this is what we are. We are, we are just as broad, just as versatile as everyone else and actually more than likely, even more.

There is nothing I take personally, but I’ve always ahh, I always kind of, experienced that umm and so for me what a massive transition to the community was, was actually in voicing, like, my experience with that. Because for a long time like, generally when I started my comedy career umm I thought brown people are never going to find me funny, because for so long my experience had been, that brown people didn’t find me funny. But, from when I was younger, but I didn’t realise is that how we express, you know our enjoyment and our liking for something is so different to what I like, have come accustomed too.

Because you know, if you make like, Pākehā laugh they will laugh hardout and be like ohh ya so funny mate, you’re a bloody cracker aren’t ya.

But umm, you know I even remember like, moving back over, and like if you um, if māori think you’re funny they’re not gonna laugh they gonna be like uhhhh owww. (laughs)

And if you don’t know those like, you know, those like, subtle differences like, those nuances like, umm you know it can really, it could really impact you. And so for me that was my view of myself for so long was like, ok, maybe I’m not I’m not going to connect to like, my own people cos… it was funny, like, I felt more comfortable connecting with pakeha and, I was able to connect with them earlier in my comedy career and they got what I was trying to do and for me it

was like, like, honestly the brown community was kind of this big like, boogy man for me that I felt like they’re weren’t gonna, um, be open to the kind of person I was.

And then I…then once I just started voicing that insecurity, ummm, my first outlet for it was my podcasts. I started a podcast in 2017 and I would talk about a lot of these things, and, ya know, podcasting back then like I, you know, it was, it was white man city, and it kind of still is like, in a way. And so there was, like, there was no expectation that it was going to be anything that like brown people who I really wanted to talk, to would listen too. And then when I started doing this podcast all the people that were listening and coming in were brown people going like, bro, like I really, I really get what you, yeah, I get what you were saying, you know, with not feeling like you know, a part of the culture, or like not feeling like you’re, not feeling like you’re authentic. That was, that was a massive one always of not feeling like a real brown person. I’d get people telling me that all the time.

One really scary thing for a lot of like brown men is sitting in a circle with your mates and being the one that like speaks up on something different. And I’m not talking about anything serious, like you could all be talking about music, and if you say like… you know if they’re all talking about like, you know, katchafire, talking about sons of Zion like yeaaa, I want to go to onelove. If you’re the one dude that speaks up and like, far out, that new Dua Lipa song is mean aye? All you’re hearing forever is Dua Lipa? Like your name is Dua Lipa for the next two years.

You know like, we are expecting them to talk like to be open and talk in the most vulnerable periods of their lives, whereas we can’t even talk about our mates about what kinds of food we like if it’s any different to like, you know, what they all like.

So for me that was the first time I ever actually broke out of that. Because I was very much like one that, I would either take the piss so that if people made fun of what I was saying then I could like, paint it off as joking. Or I just wouldn’t like, say anything at all. But then when I started my podcast it was the first time that I was just like, nah this is the kind of shit I like. This is the kind of stuff I like talking about.

I like, you know like I, saw like Virgil Abloh like, released some new shoes. And I could say it like, uninhibited and just like really with my chest. And that’s the kind of shit that if I’m sitting around my mates, and I was like ohhh you know they’re all talking about rugby, or talking about you know, whatever the fuck the all blacks were up to on the weekend, and I’s like did you guys see those new Virgil Abloh shoes? And I’m hearing like what the….Virgil Abloh – who the fuck is that? Is he from Spain? Umm so Yeah my podcast was umm… it such like a small part of my career I guess in most people's eyes, but it’s the um, thing that changed my life because it was that first time.

You know what a really crazy thing was? Was umm I became really accustomed to being around my friend group, and just feeling like shit all the time. And that sounds really like, drastic but, it’s kind of like any relationship like that. Like, it just becomes you normal. And umm, for me, like, and, it was, it was just little things. Like I, like I just knew like, ok, we are going to go have fun and you know, we are probably all going to drink and head to town and, we will talk about girls and talk about you know like, crack up stories that happened umm, but they’re probably

going to make fun of my height. Or they’re probably going to make fun of the songs I try and put on. And it would really like, for me the physical feeling that I’ve described to my therapist is that I, my chest gets really hot and I remember every time I would um, be leaving, going in I’d kind of be fine, but leaving my chest would be really hot. And then it wasn’t something I really started paying attention to until I got older, and I started to notice like, ohh, like this feeling like, I feel it in these situations where I umm, where I’m really scared of this idea of being exposed or this idea of being, umm, the light shone on me and everyone can laugh at me. This is umm, this is a feeling that I’ve been feeling through my whole life, and ahh, and so what I started to do, I started, once I figured that out, I started to circle all the things that were making me feel that way.

And it was really hard cos my one was a lot of my closest friends, my parents. Like it was umm my job. It was everything. And so for me and like, this guy will probably remember it was like, a massive period in my life that I was like, fuck that – all of that’s going. And I’m not going to have anything but at least, at the very least, and how I kind of describe like, my way of dealing with a lot of these things – and it’s not a good or bad way but, I just needed to get to zero.

So, I wasn’t trying to, umm, you know, solve all my problems, but I at least knew what wasn’t good for me. And I was like, ok, I’ll just get rid of those, and, cos now I’m at negative 100 right now, with all these people kind of in all these situations making me feel this way, I just need to get back to zero and then I could just build myself up from that.

And that’s pretty much what I did – was once I really figured out. For me it was starting to…the start of, it was figuring out what that feeling is. And then it was figuring out where that feeling is coming from and then cutting those things that were really contributing to that.

I’m a big um, like, reflector and umm, and I guess the other word for that is like big overthinker. So, I’ll like, think on like, everything and even just like, little shit and it helps at times because I don’t really like miss a lot of things, but then that obviously hurts because, like I remember everything. (Chuckle) So for me… Yeah for me like, ahhh ahh a really big thing was just… cos what I used to do was I used to overthink and reflect on everything around me. You know, what people were saying. You know like, I said this joke, this one little…this person made like a little, like, rolled their eyes and smirked – like, I’ll remember that. You know all the things around me and what I changed was like, nah I’m just gonna focus on like, on what I’m feeling, ok. I’m noticing everytime this person talks – not necessarily even towards me – like, I get this like, feeling in my head of like, ohh fuck I hope he doesn’t say anything to me.

And umm, and that’s not the end of the journey for me. On my own I was able to figure out where they were coming from, how to then deal with them, and the big thing, how to move on was something that I learnt through going to therapy and then also through like, talking about it just over and over and over again. Those were the two things for me.

I’m big on like, retaining, you know like, retaining your power and so, and what…what that looks like is in the things that may affect me in a certain way or that have a… or have like a hold on me. I’m like a big proponent of like, not running away from it and actually like, figuring out why I

feel like that, or why it has that effect, and not trying to change it but at least just trying to figure out what my relationship with it is.

Comedy is like a good example, but the example I’ll actually use, is with my parents. So, my parents, we have like, a very complicated relationship and one big thing, one big… they had a lot of like, effects on me in my life that I still really struggle with. Umm but one really big one was, they played a really big part in like, my self esteem and my view of myself. And so, I didn’t talk to my parents for quite a long time and that was just me getting back to zero, with that relationship and then trying… and trying to build it up basically, was me then having to go back, and figure out why they had that effect, and then redefine like, what that meant to me.

And so I was actually talking to my younger brother about it the other day. And one of the big things for me was that I’m like a big word of affirmations dude. Like I think, I don’t really need much, but if you tell me that I’m doing a good job, like it makes me feel good. And umm, my Dad in particular, like, he’ll never, like, he’ll never do it, and, and I don’t know if it’s a mental block for him or if there’s like trauma in there like, but he just… he can’t, he can’t do it. He can’t give that to you. And so, how I then changed that was rather than my relationship with my Dad being like why can’t you give that to me, like, why can’t do that for me? It then changed to well Dad, like, I’m gonna do it for you. And he doesn’t receive it well, but in changing that power dynamic of well, ohh you can’t give me what I need, but I’m gonna give you like, what I would’ve, what I wanted when I was, when I was growing up.

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